Lemmy has said that he's loyal to his band members and don't want the put the current band on hold for a reunion tour.

Fine. But he can be loyal to both the band and their fans. And many fans wants to see and hear Lemmy, Philthy and Fast Eddie playing together again. Many fans weren't even born when the ”Fab 3” lineup of the group existed, but love the old albums. Why not give them and us a chance to see them?

None of the ”Fab 3” members are getting any younger. This might be the last chance.

And Lemmy can still be loyal to Phil C. And Mikkey. A tour, a live album and maybe a studio album with Philthy and Eddie, and Phil C. Mikkey can produce these albums! They know how a Motorhead album should sound.

Another option is to hire Fast Eddie as a second guitarist.

It would be the same as inviting some ex-girlfriend for a dinner with you and wife. Wouldn't work.

Silly idea, don't live in the past, that's not what Motörhead do. Its not going to happen. Sure they might join them on stage for a song or two, but that's it. I wish people would stop trying to make this happen

Would be great if they join for a couple of songs, but that's it, nothing more.

And what's that of "being loyal to the fans" thing? Lemmy's always been loyal to his fans, maybe the only one in the music business who has always been loyal to the fans.

As guest appearances together with just Lemmy on a song or two then that's a great idea and something to enjoy, but it shouldn't be something that becomes an actual tour (Mini or longer). There doesn't need to be any albums or videos or anything else, unless they decide to have a one-off guest performance at a DVD filming of a standard show or something as an extra.

Motorhead's fine as it is, and I actually feel somewhat sorry for Phil and Mikkey having to hear about people asking for this kind of stuff as it's not fair to them considering they've served more than enough time to be seen as main fixtures in the band.

A reunion is just not going to happen I wish people would stop harping on about it, I think its disrespectful to the current line-up.

For KISS the reunion tour was the most successful tour of their career. The original members Ace and Peter stayed with the band for four years.



Was it disrespectful to Blaze Bayley when Bruce Dickinson rejoined Iron Maiden, or to Ripper Owens when Rob Halford rejoined Judas Priest? No.

And if you read what I said, I was was talking about a tour and maybe an album with the "Fab 3" that Phil C. and Mikkey Dee can produce. Not that they should be kicked out from the band.


I don't understand why you want us Eddie and Philthy fans to shut up? I happen to like them and their style of playing, and for me a reunion tour/album would be a dream come true.

Phil Campbell is an excellent guitarist, but more metal than Eddie, who is more bluesey. Mikkey Dee is technically superiour to Philthy, but Philthy has a very personal style and follows the melody in his playing. And together with Lemmy they produce a sound that I love.

The old and the "new" Motorhead sound like totally different bands.

I don't want to take anything away from you. Phil and Mikkey would still be members. For me it's a dream to see and hear the "Fab 3" making noise together again, of only for a couple of months. It's my opinion and I hope you can respect it.

I understand that you, and a lot of other people, miss Philthy and Eddie, and to be honest I would love to seen that line-up as well. But in my opinion this line-up does the job more than good enough for me!

I would love to see those 3 gig, as it's the only line up (except the really early stuff with Lucas and Larry) that I never saw live, and cause they made some amazing music. That said, the music was incredible but it was performed 30 years ago and Motorhead has moved on. As for Maiden and Priest, both singers had established themselves as the voice of their respective bands, and Blaze and Ripper had only been at the helm for a few short years and a couple of albums, whereas Mikkey and Phil especially have been with Motorhead for a considerably longer time. I agree that it would be cool to get the 3 of them to do a couple of songs together one night, but a tour? Maybe if Phil and Mikkey left, with Robbo making it a foursome.

Today's line up is the best, in anyway. It would be very rude to Phil and Mikkey that Lemmy goes with old line up. I would like to see line up with Larry Wallis but that would be rude to this line up too. And I think, who knows, but I think that Phil Taylor is not that good anymore. Eddie, maybe. There are only two choices, this line up should stop forever and than MAYBE you will have old line up again, or Eddie could join this line up. But I have a feeling that everyone is against change for this line up today. And that's good because this line up what they did for Motorhead and how long they are in Motorhead deserve biggest respect but people don't see that for now, someday when Motorhead will be over they will.

Hahaha... Yes you can describe situation like that too.

One more thing. I can't see Motorhead have something in common with this metal bands.

I can respect your wish's Patte but you mentioned Iron Maiden and Judas priest in your last post, slightly different situations to the motorhead thing y'know, and hey why stop at a Philthy Eddie reunion after that one why not get Robbo involved again !! Every body knows the change in sound different members bring to band dynamics but for me that's what keeps things fresh, it keeps things evolving, and even Lemmy has said he's not about to put the current line-up on hold for a nostalgia trip. And by the way I did read what you said and if you think that Phil and Mikkey would step back and sit it out while a different line up (that was around for a lot less time than the current one) was touring and maybe then do an album "Phil and Mikkey could produce"!! Your a bigger dreamer than I know you already are.

I agree with this. Change in line ups where great for Motorhead. Every line up continued where old one stoped. And new line up new sound and it is still Motorhead, that's great. In some bands change of line up doesn't work but for Motorhead I think it couldn't be better. Motorhead is much more better today because of this line up changes. Can you imagine Lemmy/Larry/Lucas playing still today? Or Kilmister/Clarke/Taylor? It would be much more boring Motorhead and with less progress.

I think it would be nice to see Eddie and Philthy in the new Lemmy solo album.
Not the three together as old Motorhead but maybe a guitar solo in a song and the drums in another. Something like that.

Agree. I think the current line up is the best. Some seem to forget they've been playing together for 20 years (Phil's been with Lem for almost 30).

If Lem sez a "classic" reunion won't happen, it won't happen.

Other than a song or two at a special event, it's not likely to happen. For one thing Fast Eddie and Philthy Animal are also quite old. Doing a tour can be extremely stressful. Lemmy can do it but there aren't too many musicians near that age that can do it.

I'm lucky to have seen the current lineup and the classic lineup. I had more fun seeing the current lineup (the time I saw the original band was kind of like a nightmare - too many negative things happening at that show.) I did not enjoy the show with the classic lineup at the time but I'm really happy to have seen it in hindsight though.

It's about as likely to happen as Lemmy rejoining Hawkwind.

Despite I love the current Motorhead line up I must confess I would love to see the old one reunited again even because I never saw them live... It would be a dream come true... but now it is just a dream...
cheers

Eddie's tinkering with Fastway currently, and Philthy's either not feeling so well right now or he's busy. In fact, Philthy's last band just put out their album with him playing drums for free via their Myspace page, so he's obviously into other things.

i think av mentioned this before but in my opinion, this band is light years ahead of ''fab 3 (??!!** wtf?) i was lucky enough to see that line up 30+ times and i enjoyed every minute of it, however, it sometimes descended into a complete wall of noise & couldnt hear anything except lems bass. Dont get me wrong i understand completely why people would want to see this happen, but this line up is far far superior live than eddie & phil, i think the god like status of the 3 piece has grown & grown over the last 30 years well out of proportion
i dont want to sound like am putting that era down as it changed my life from the age of 12 but the band now is exceptional & i think we should appreciate that rather than dwell on the past ( just my opinion )

I'm currently re-discovering Motorhead. At the time Eddie left, I thought it wouldn't be like the original Motorhead lineup, and it did sound different but I expected not to like the newer albums, so I generally had skipped everything that was done since the lineup changed.
I was wrong to do that. I love the original lineup and their songs but I'm enjoying the newer lineups as well.

Now, that's acceptable. Soloing with Lem but nothing to do with Motorhead. In this sense, Lem would be helping the fans and the artists without degrading our loveds Campbell and Dee.

Patte had probably created this thread just to get people chatting and expressing their views or suggestions... I did that many times, only for fun at different bands forums, and it was a laugh. Apart from the day I posted 'what if band members shuffle positions' at the Ramones forum, which I got sworn at by the PC crowd.. lol lol

Areed MotorLaw, To be fair its been a good discussion point.

Original was Lemmy/Larry/Lucas, than Lemmy/Larry/Phil Taylor, after that Kilmister/Clarke/Taylor.

Kil/Wallis/Fox... what a great beginning with my fav classic rock masterpiece On Parole. Great era it was and great era we are in. Doesn't matter who's ever been in Motorhead, it's always been so great. I also think, no matter who's ever been in, Lemmy is the one who choses staff, creates or makes the final decision/quality control, so Motorhead is likely to be very good with any chosen formation anyway.

on parole ..........sheer class great line up , as was the motorhead/overkill / bomber/a o s / iron fist line up .....but todays line up is fantastic we are lucky to have a band like this esp "LIVE" make the most of um !!!!

Yes, On parole album, one of my favorites. It is so good and strange in good way, it is style and songs, it's like Hawkwind/Pink Fairies/Motorhead together in one. This is real Motorhead for me, I'm mean, everything after was just evolution. If you listen this I really can't understand how someone can put this in the same bag with metal bands (genre) like Priest, Maiden etc... Someone here said that a page before I think... "if those bands had some reunion member like Maiden, Priest..."... To put parallels between Motorhead and metal world is just... When I read those stuff it's like someone tell me over and over and over and over again that sky is yellow and not blue, grass is black and not green etc... can't except that. Probably I'm so annoying to those guys, but on the same way they are annoying to me. Oh well... life's go on.

I think Motörhead reunion with old members is just waste of time.

Other than On Parole are there any other recordings with these lineups?

I have On Parole but haven't listened to it because at the time that I bought it, many years ago, I heard Lemmy was really upset because they released it. Recently I bought a ton of their CDs that came out after Iron Fist and I'm really enjoying going through them.

Don't know, he was upset because they released "On Parole" 2,5 years later and until than he didn't know if they gonna release album at all, that's why he was upset, that's why people than talked about "Motorhead" album like first album, it was first album in the stores, first album to see light of the day but On Parole was RECORDED first, for me On parole is first album. In his book he said about album "this is part of story (Motorhead) too..." You have some bootleg with pretty much bad sound from first show ever 20.7.1975, their first working day like band.

On this bootleg is Lemmy/Wallis/Fox line up. On "On parole" is Lemmy/Wallis/Taylor line up except song Lost Johnny where is Fox on drums. On latter release you have bonus tracks with Fox on drums too, 4 more songs I think. In late 1975 they started to work on first album but Taylor comes in and Fox goes away, "he didn't have a bite" said Lemmy. SO Taylor did "Overdubing drums" and that's On parole album.

I did some research on 'On Parole' some time ago and it was actually released in 1976. The UK release was 1979, but the first release (1976) was in Japan(?) and some very few other countries.

Yes you're right. On parole was finished in 1976 but they started making this album in december 1975 with Fox. Those 4 bonus track's on cd release are maybe from that period. And Lost Johnny.

Anyway because of Japan and some other countries "On parole" is real first album and it is not in discography section. Huh...

That's a good idea, and I see no reason why the three couldn't play together on the album. They wouldn't call themselves Motorhead.



No, I do want to hear/see the three perform together again, and of course it's interesting to hear your different views and suggestions on this subject.

I've been listening to the old Motorhead albums lately and found a video on Youtube where Lemmy answered a question about a possible reunion. I didn't share his opinion, but it's his band.

I miss the early 1980's. The music was better, the comic books were better, and I was a lot younger.

Never mind the discography section at imotorhead, it has never been taken too seriously. On Parole is a 1975 production with a 1976 release but the special thing about it is that Lem had probably dreamed of making it happen when leaving Hawkwind, and it did start his new career nicer than he probably expected. And Larry's vocal was great too, all very raw, simple but still 'premium quality'. The 'Rolls Royce' of the classic hard rock & roll albums

Yup, very special sound and atmosphere on "On parole". About Larry his album Death in guitarfternoon is great too. Who knows what Lucas is doing right now. He still playing drums?

I think there is a bigger chance to see THE BEATLES reunite than Lem lining up with Philthy and Eddie again... I doubt Philthy can handle the old classics these days...

Larry Wallis ... was the best guitarist - composer rock'n 'roll music of MOTORHEAD and this can not be overcome. He is a real rock 'n' roll - underground star of England. And therefore almost nobody knows it .... I do not know how it is today because a website "pinkfairies.co.uk" ceased to exist ...

Can you imagine that Larry and his band (from album death in guitarfternoon) plays before Motorhead on every show this tour? And mabe even Hawkwind? It would be great!!! And not some shit like Anthrax or somethin like that

Why?the only reason i like any hawkwind was when lem was in the band the rest of it i dont give two shits about...

You have a strong point there, Larry's creativity, voice and rhythm are top notch, but it all falls into the 'personal opinion' category.
I'm sure a lot of people would prefer Eddie or Phil.
I still don't have a concrete preference and I'm not sure I will ever have. All 3 did great and so the other ones. I just don't know what Lemmy would do if Larrry spent more time in Motorhead... To carry on sharing vocals with him and letting him compose or create part of songs?
But anyway, I have always been so so happy with Phil Campbell, I think we are privileged for having this present formation.

Larry followed by Motorhead would be a dream evening. Just like last year's tour

Larry Wallis was good, but that very first album (On Parole) was a pretty far cry from the Motorhead we knew and loved when Eddie and Philthy joined, and we love now with Phil and Mikkey all these years later. OP was the right direction, but it was lacking the energy Edddie and Philthy brought to the table.

I think On Parole lacks nothing. It is just like it should be, perfect and it is original motorhead sound before eddie and philthy. On every album from On parole til The world is yours doesn't lack anything, albums, they are just parts of every period. OP is first part thats why it is so important.

On Parole is a masterpiece, full of energy, in my opinion, more energy than Another Perfect Day for example.

agree !!!!!!!!!!! its in the car at the moment .......but every "notorhead " album has its place !!

agree !!!!!!!!!!! its in the car at the moment .......but every "notorhead " album has its place !!

For me, good though OP and Motorhead are, Overkill is the first of the truly great Motorhead albums. But as Motorlaw says above, it's personal opinion. Be a dull arse world if we all agreed all the time

On Parole album did not lack energy, but also the sound ... I recommend FIRST EVER GIG July 20, 1975. Recording quality is very bad, but the group's original sound ... Lemmy and Larry are great, Lucas Fox is trying to keep up with them ....

The album On Parole "Philthy Animal" is the best of him ... Larry was really excited and said ... "look, that bastard is absolutely perfect" .... It was a reality.

I think the first one is owed a lot of name MOTORHEAD while also someone who is so far MOTORHEAD for the big "taboo" is a Larry Wallis ... really GREAT songwriter and guitarist and singer, R'N'R in the UK, but which no one today does not know ...

am sorry mate, i've read that post about 12 times now & i still
havent got a clue what your on about

Word!

I'm thinking he means Larry Wallis is part of Motorhead as much as some of the others. Sorry if I misinterpreted that.

The thing is that Lemmy mentioned that he was still in the Pink Fairies when he accepted to join Motorhead.

Here is a bit of an interview I found online with Wallis:

PSF: So when did you get a call from Lemmy to join Motorhead?

LW: I wasn't really doing anything at the time. I was a Pink Fairy, and I guess I'll always be, but at the time we were resting. So, one Friday afternoon I got a call from Lemmy. He wasn't really a chum so it was strange to hear from him. He'd been dumped from Hawkwind for being naughty at the Canadian/American border and he was forming Motorhead. He wanted to know if I wanted to get myself over to Chelsea and test our collective guns as the power trio to end all power trios. How many answers can you come up with for that? I was in a cab and headed towards Chelsea like a speed freak on his way to a speed booth. I was excited by the turn of events. I got there and met Lucas Fox (original Motorhead drummer) for the first time. Lemmy drew us aside and whacked out something that looked like Vim (English equivalent to Ajax) and asked 'Wanna line?' I asked him 'What is it?' 'Amphetamine Sulphate' was his reply. Ah, speed! I was in friendly territory. When I hovered the gigantic line of drug up my nose, I thought I'd really snorted kitchen cleaner. My nose was blowtorch city, but this soon ceased to bother me, as I wanted to run around the room as fast as possible whilst taking in detail every event and idea that had ever happened occurred to me. Lemmy knew what to do with this batch of happy nerve endings. 'Let's make a noise,' growled The Lem. We plugged in, left the amp settings where they were, as they were already turned with a monkey wrench, and went nuts. In hindsight, it would of been great to dump Lucas Fox right then and there. We never really spotted that being Keith Moon on a busy day wasn't his forte. I guess exuberance, noise and dope made us blind to the fact. We commenced rehearsing and that could be a real drag. I often sat in a room alone for two hours or more waiting for Lemmy. That got old real fast.

We wanted to pride ourselves on being the fastest band in the world and it got the best of us at one of our first gigs. We were doing a Sunday night gig in Croydon. We rushed on stage and off we went. I remember Lemmy and I were shouting at Lucas 'Faster, you fucking idiot, FASTER!' We went down real well, and triumphantly strode off the stage. As we were sitting there contemplating an encore, a purple promoter erupted in to the dressing room, demanding to know why we'd done 25 minutes instead of the agreed hour. We were amazed/amused/astonished to find out we'd played the entire set in half the usual time!


PSF: So why leave Motorhead?

LW: The problems eventually took over the fun. Recording the first album, On Parole was trying enough on its own. We had to get down to Wales to record at Rockfield. Lem turned up a day or two late and then Dave Edumnds bowed out of producing it at the last minute. Then we took Lucas' drum tracks off and replaced them with Phil's (Taylor). Then UA made Lemmy record the bass tracks again. And after all that, they refused to put it out! The game didn't look as if it was worth the candle. I wanted another guitarist to flesh it out, but once Eddie Clark came along, it was apparent he would be the man to replace me. He had the enthusiasm that had been eaten away from me by circumstances. I get a ton of e-mails every week asking if there is any chance of me working with the 'Head again. I'd like to do an album with Lemmy again. I can actually write good things with an electric guitar these days. You hear me, Lem?

Well, Yes and no. If I remember correctly Larry and Lemmy met somewhere in May?? 1975. They where rehearsing and all that... On 13 July 1975 Larry recorded album with Pink Fairies "Live at the roundhouse". BUT On 20 July was first Motorhead show ever, their first working day in public. So, depends what you think is real start of Motorhead. Is it 20 July 1975 (For me it is) or it is somewhere in May? Pink Fairies released a single Between the Lines / Spilling for a fight on september 1976, IF I remember Larry was not in Motorhead anymore in this period. My point is, when he was playing in Motorhead Pink Fairies were paused from working.

See page 98 of the Lemmy White Line Fever book. He mentions having known Larry when he was in UFO before the Pink Fairies. See the You Tube footage I posted links to in that section... He almost certainly played on the same stage as Larry as Pinkwind when Pink Fairies and Hawkwind played together. They were known for jamming altogether on a couple of numbers at free festivals. It would be great to see photos of this if they exist. I think Windsor 1974 may have been one of those occasions...
It is also well-documented in the Forced Exposure interview with Larry that he moonlighted with the Pinks at the same time as Motorhead, for example during the recording of On Parole when he did not get much sleep between recording sessions with Motorhead and live giogs with the Pinks. This eventually led to him losing enthusiasm / energy for Motorhead when Eddie came onto the scene in early 1976. I recently read in a Clash book that Philthy Animal actually auditioned for the Clash during this period!

Some good facts in this thread!

Philthy and The Clash? Thanks for that... unbelievable (London Calling in minutes 1:27)!

This topic reminds me how Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley literally turned their backs on Bruce Kulick and Eric Singer in the mid-late 90's to re-hire Ace Frehley and Peter Chriss who they didn't even life, ALL for the money. Makes me sick. I don't see Lemmy EVER doing that.

Agree 100%, KISS finished in 1992.

Gene Simmons in particular is a jerk in real life. I've never met him but that is what people who met him have said.

Even after Ace Frehley (left or was kicked out of Kiss after their reunion, they got the new guys to wear Ace and Peter Kriss' makeup.

Gene Simmons started calling them crackheads in interviews.