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#47637 - 04/29/12 04:10 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: Snaggletöoth]
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Originally Posted By: Snaggletöoth
Larry Wallis was good, but that very first album (On Parole) was a pretty far cry from the Motorhead we knew and loved when Eddie and Philthy joined, and we love now with Phil and Mikkey all these years later. OP was the right direction, but it was lacking the energy Edddie and Philthy brought to the table.


On Parole album did not lack energy, but also the sound ... I recommend FIRST EVER GIG July 20, 1975. Recording quality is very bad, but the group's original sound ... Lemmy and Larry are great, Lucas Fox is trying to keep up with them ....

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#47638 - 04/29/12 04:20 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: 123654]
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The album On Parole "Philthy Animal" is the best of him ... Larry was really excited and said ... "look, that bastard is absolutely perfect" .... It was a reality.

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#48388 - 06/02/12 05:57 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: Blackadder]
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I think the first one is owed a lot of name MOTORHEAD while also someone who is so far MOTORHEAD for the big "taboo" is a Larry Wallis ... really GREAT songwriter and guitarist and singer, R'N'R in the UK, but which no one today does not know ...


Edited by 123654 (06/02/12 06:01 PM)

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#48396 - 06/03/12 10:06 AM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: 123654]
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Originally Posted By: 123654
I think the first one is owed a lot of name MOTORHEAD while also someone who is so far MOTORHEAD for the big "taboo" is a Larry Wallis ... really GREAT songwriter and guitarist and singer, R'N'R in the UK, but which no one today does not know ...

am sorry mate, i've read that post about 12 times now & i still
havent got a clue what your on about
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#48399 - 06/03/12 01:48 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: lard-o-matic]
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Originally Posted By: lard-o-matic
For me, good though OP and Motorhead are, Overkill is the first of the truly great Motorhead albums. But as Motorlaw says above, it's personal opinion. Be a dull arse world if we all agreed all the time


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#48410 - 06/03/12 10:35 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: 123654]
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Originally Posted By: 123654
I think the first one is owed a lot of name MOTORHEAD while also someone who is so far MOTORHEAD for the big "taboo" is a Larry Wallis ... really GREAT songwriter and guitarist and singer, R'N'R in the UK, but which no one today does not know ...


I'm thinking he means Larry Wallis is part of Motorhead as much as some of the others. Sorry if I misinterpreted that.

The thing is that Lemmy mentioned that he was still in the Pink Fairies when he accepted to join Motorhead.

Here is a bit of an interview I found online with Wallis:

PSF: So when did you get a call from Lemmy to join Motorhead?

LW: I wasn't really doing anything at the time. I was a Pink Fairy, and I guess I'll always be, but at the time we were resting. So, one Friday afternoon I got a call from Lemmy. He wasn't really a chum so it was strange to hear from him. He'd been dumped from Hawkwind for being naughty at the Canadian/American border and he was forming Motorhead. He wanted to know if I wanted to get myself over to Chelsea and test our collective guns as the power trio to end all power trios. How many answers can you come up with for that? I was in a cab and headed towards Chelsea like a speed freak on his way to a speed booth. I was excited by the turn of events. I got there and met Lucas Fox (original Motorhead drummer) for the first time. Lemmy drew us aside and whacked out something that looked like Vim (English equivalent to Ajax) and asked 'Wanna line?' I asked him 'What is it?' 'Amphetamine Sulphate' was his reply. Ah, speed! I was in friendly territory. When I hovered the gigantic line of drug up my nose, I thought I'd really snorted kitchen cleaner. My nose was blowtorch city, but this soon ceased to bother me, as I wanted to run around the room as fast as possible whilst taking in detail every event and idea that had ever happened occurred to me. Lemmy knew what to do with this batch of happy nerve endings. 'Let's make a noise,' growled The Lem. We plugged in, left the amp settings where they were, as they were already turned with a monkey wrench, and went nuts. In hindsight, it would of been great to dump Lucas Fox right then and there. We never really spotted that being Keith Moon on a busy day wasn't his forte. I guess exuberance, noise and dope made us blind to the fact. We commenced rehearsing and that could be a real drag. I often sat in a room alone for two hours or more waiting for Lemmy. That got old real fast.

We wanted to pride ourselves on being the fastest band in the world and it got the best of us at one of our first gigs. We were doing a Sunday night gig in Croydon. We rushed on stage and off we went. I remember Lemmy and I were shouting at Lucas 'Faster, you fucking idiot, FASTER!' We went down real well, and triumphantly strode off the stage. As we were sitting there contemplating an encore, a purple promoter erupted in to the dressing room, demanding to know why we'd done 25 minutes instead of the agreed hour. We were amazed/amused/astonished to find out we'd played the entire set in half the usual time!


PSF: So why leave Motorhead?

LW: The problems eventually took over the fun. Recording the first album, On Parole was trying enough on its own. We had to get down to Wales to record at Rockfield. Lem turned up a day or two late and then Dave Edumnds bowed out of producing it at the last minute. Then we took Lucas' drum tracks off and replaced them with Phil's (Taylor). Then UA made Lemmy record the bass tracks again. And after all that, they refused to put it out! The game didn't look as if it was worth the candle. I wanted another guitarist to flesh it out, but once Eddie Clark came along, it was apparent he would be the man to replace me. He had the enthusiasm that had been eaten away from me by circumstances. I get a ton of e-mails every week asking if there is any chance of me working with the 'Head again. I'd like to do an album with Lemmy again. I can actually write good things with an electric guitar these days. You hear me, Lem?

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#48422 - 06/05/12 07:15 AM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: vortexx]
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Well, Yes and no. If I remember correctly Larry and Lemmy met somewhere in May?? 1975. They where rehearsing and all that... On 13 July 1975 Larry recorded album with Pink Fairies "Live at the roundhouse". BUT On 20 July was first Motorhead show ever, their first working day in public. So, depends what you think is real start of Motorhead. Is it 20 July 1975 (For me it is) or it is somewhere in May? Pink Fairies released a single Between the Lines / Spilling for a fight on september 1976, IF I remember Larry was not in Motorhead anymore in this period. My point is, when he was playing in Motorhead Pink Fairies were paused from working.
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#48427 - 06/05/12 01:53 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: Blackadder]
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See page 98 of the Lemmy White Line Fever book. He mentions having known Larry when he was in UFO before the Pink Fairies. See the You Tube footage I posted links to in that section... He almost certainly played on the same stage as Larry as Pinkwind when Pink Fairies and Hawkwind played together. They were known for jamming altogether on a couple of numbers at free festivals. It would be great to see photos of this if they exist. I think Windsor 1974 may have been one of those occasions...
It is also well-documented in the Forced Exposure interview with Larry that he moonlighted with the Pinks at the same time as Motorhead, for example during the recording of On Parole when he did not get much sleep between recording sessions with Motorhead and live giogs with the Pinks. This eventually led to him losing enthusiasm / energy for Motorhead when Eddie came onto the scene in early 1976. I recently read in a Clash book that Philthy Animal actually auditioned for the Clash during this period!

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#48432 - 06/05/12 09:26 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: desertrat]
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Some good facts in this thread!
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#48551 - 06/12/12 04:53 PM Re: Reunion w. Philthy and Eddie. An idea [Re: MotorLaw]
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Philthy and The Clash? Thanks for that... unbelievable (London Calling in minutes 1:27)!
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