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#51390 - 11/20/12 03:09 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: bastard88]
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Originally Posted By: bastard88
Quiet, you. Everyone already knows your opinion on this. You add nothing to this discussion. You've never added anything of substance to any discussion.


I couldn't agree more, mate! That blabladder-dude is most annoying...
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#51392 - 11/20/12 05:22 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: Iron Fist]
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I think metal fans are most annoying because they do not want to understand. One more thing (the new thing) about this link. What Lemmy did here is very smart, I would do the same thing. I remember his interview it was somewhere in 1996, because his was talking about new song "Them not me" from Overnight sensation. He was interviewed from dude I know, his name was Pishta from band Hard time. This was support band on three Motorhead concerts. He ask Lemmy: "Do you feel yourself as some bikers band?" Lemmy: "No. We are musical group I DONT CARE IF YOU ARE SCHOOL TEACHER, BIKER OR ANYBODY ELSE, I only WANT TO GET MORE PEOPLE AS I CAN and I never had a bike...". So Lemmy says; He dont care if you are blues fan, jazz fan, metal fan, rock fan etc etc... He want them all! Motorhead is not his life only, it is his BUSSINES too! So we know what he thinks about his own band, but I saw in some interviews that IF HE SEE THAT GUY WHO IS INTERVIEW HIM IS METAL FAN he will not insist on rnr thing. It is bad for a bussines. He said two weeks ago in one interview which was on this site, that he think 'anyone who listen metal and if he listen something else the other guys think he is sissy.. and thats very stupid' He knows if he insist to much on this rnr thing that some of the metal fans (who dont want to listen nothing but metal, i hope you met in your life those kind of guys) will stop listen Motorhead and thats BAD FOR A BUSSINES. Now these days he dont give a fuck, and Im very happy about it. He finaly dont have a need to think about bussines anymore because of his age and reputation, thats why he insist on thruth, on rnr thing. But this two, three metal fans on this forum doesnt see that, and they dont want to see that. Maybe they think that Beatles and Napalm death is same genre or Oasis and Sepultura hahahaha... Im sorry metal fans if you feel cheated in some way but thats not my fault, fault is yours, you dont accept what Motorhead is. AND I DID NOT STARTED THIS THEME AGAIN!
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#51396 - 11/20/12 07:50 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: Blackadder]
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actually, few days ago i finished with second reading of white line fever and there was one thing that i noticed exclusively because of this endless fighting about what is motorhead and that is this:

in one part of book lemmy himself says that he doesn't get it why poeple bash metal, because it's one of best/purest (don't remember exact word) forms of rock'n'roll.

so i think it preaty much explains his statement on this theme


but still, with or without his words, this is probably most pointless fight ever, we can go in circle forever. there will always be someone that will say that lemmy stands for rock n roll, and then some other dude will say something like i did the start of my post and on and on and on

POINTLESS

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#51400 - 11/20/12 08:53 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: motorajzd]
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Originally Posted By: motorajzd
actually, few days ago i finished with second reading of white line fever and there was one thing that i noticed exclusively because of this endless fighting about what is motorhead and that is this:

in one part of book lemmy himself says that he doesn't get it why poeple bash metal, because it's one of best/purest (don't remember exact word) forms of rock'n'roll.

so i think it preaty much explains his statement on this theme


but still, with or without his words, this is probably most pointless fight ever, we can go in circle forever. there will always be someone that will say that lemmy stands for rock n roll, and then some other dude will say something like i did the start of my post and on and on and on

POINTLESS

I know about this statement too. But this one statement in this book against few others, which is fight against logic. Dont forget, some parts of Lemmys book were writen in 80s, later those parts were put in this book by publisher. This statement was from 80s (1984?) and was like this statement from middle 90s. It is only logical explenation that those statements were BUSSINES statements in those days what I wrote in my last post. Because you cant say that Rolling stones and Cannibal Corpse are same genre or Beatles and Napalm death or Oasis and Obituary etc etc etc... Thats only logical explanation. Anyone who heard that statement cant believe in that, but fights what we have over this is in some little way Lemmys fault too, because throu that statements he wants all fans from all genres to connect in one Motorhead fans because of bussines reasons, and if you cant see that ROLLING STONES AND CANNIBAL CORPSE are not same genres I CANT HELP YOU. On the other hand, Lemmy is human too, he can make mistakes in his statements too. But we can say; Are those two/three statements are thruth or his all life statement that Motorhead is rnr and in many interviews not metal? Thats the same thing what I got fight about few albums; You have 10 songs, 2 of them are metal, is this album metal? What about other 8 songs? Lemmy can make mistake too, or his all life beliefs and lyrics in songs, 1000000 interviews etc etc... doesnt make sense. And I dont want to belive that. Those statements in my belief were bussines statements to make more people Motorhead fans from all genres and subgenres.
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#51401 - 11/20/12 08:57 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: motorajzd]
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Originally Posted By: motorajzd
actually, few days ago i finished with second reading of white line fever and there was one thing that i noticed exclusively because of this endless fighting about what is motorhead and that is this:

in one part of book lemmy himself says that he doesn't get it why poeple bash metal, because it's one of best/purest (don't remember exact word) forms of rock'n'roll.

so i think it preaty much explains his statement on this theme


but still, with or without his words, this is probably most pointless fight ever, we can go in circle forever. there will always be someone that will say that lemmy stands for rock n roll, and then some other dude will say something like i did the start of my post and on and on and on

POINTLESS

And in this his statement he said that about metal but he didnt say Motorhead is metal exactly did he?
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#51404 - 11/20/12 10:35 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: Blackadder]
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no you probably cant say that cannibal corpse
and the beatles are the same genre,
but you can say that motorhead,maiden ac/dc priest
are surely? but people say maiden and priest are metal
but 'head and /dc are rock never to be mixed up?
i dont get it! as i've said before
(many times yawn!) they used to sit side by side
on my denim in the 80's
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#51405 - 11/20/12 10:47 AM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: rick]
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rick, don't feed him! He'll babble only more nonsense...
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#51406 - 11/20/12 12:22 PM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: rick]
Blackadder Offline
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Originally Posted By: rick
no you probably cant say that cannibal corpse
and the beatles are the same genre,
but you can say that motorhead,maiden ac/dc priest
are surely? but people say maiden and priest are metal
but 'head and /dc are rock never to be mixed up?
i dont get it! as i've said before
(many times yawn!) they used to sit side by side
on my denim in the 80's

Hello Rick! Yes thats what Im talking about. To give you answer to your question look up all my last posts on other themes. You need to know difference of what is rnr and all his periods (rock, hard rock etc) and what is metal. I think you dont understand that but I talk about that many times before. Just one hint; The cheap music doesnt mean anything. Real art, real rock bands means they are not only fun they are more deep than that. It all came from late 60s. In rnr, music and mentality 'way of thinkin' is one, you cant split that, thats art, that mean something. For example see lyrics from the songs: 1916, orgasamtron, March or die, dont need religion etc etc.. it is all not just fun just music, it is mentality, "way of thinkin" on people, life, planet, nature bla bla... and on the other hand you have many metal bands with teenager childish stuff about: hell, devils, horror movies etc etc.... Mentality "way of thinkin" is rnr. Music, rnr, is not only riff on guitar, it is much more, and it is different than metal. I always say metal is for the kids, rock is for grown up. The most weird thing is that noone ask how Milles Davis can be Jazz in 80s, and he proggresed same as Motorhead in rnr, last studio album is rnr from 2010, thats how rnr sounds in 2010. Why is so hard to understand this and with Jazz is not for example? Thats very weird. But this is some other theme. I talked about before about stealing stuff; metal from rnr: like leather jackets, long hair and other ideas.. everything from that was before metal. And if I have leather jacket many people will think "he is metal", thats what I was talking about few months back about "metal propaganda" where metal fans and musicians took many things from rnr and saying for many rock bands that they are metal, and they are not. Leather jackets came from James Dean from the 50s, long hair from the 60s, and now if I have long hair and leather jacket most of them will say on the street "look, a metal fan" and I dont like metal at all. Do you understand now? Similar thing happened with rock bands. Some of them. On 'way of thinkin' many of that you can see from lyrics and you can compare them, all songs from Motorhead, to all songs from some metal band... It is very very different. Metal band doesnt play: Louie Louie, Dont waste your time, whorehouse blues, you better run, hoochie coochie man etc etc etc.... Your problem is I think, you dont know really what rnr is and what metal is. I know some metal fans, they always said to me that Motorhead is not metal to them. What is rnr and what is metal we talked about that before, if you cant see which is which than how can you understand what Im talking about? This is realy some other theme. But nevermind, Cheers!
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#51407 - 11/20/12 12:23 PM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: Iron Fist]
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Originally Posted By: Iron Fist
rick, don't feed him! He'll babble only more nonsense...

hahahaha... from now on, you are my idol, I respect you so much laugh
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#51408 - 11/20/12 12:25 PM Re: On Parole not listed in discography [Re: Blackadder]
bastard88 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Blackadder
Originally Posted By: motorajzd
actually, few days ago i finished with second reading of white line fever and there was one thing that i noticed exclusively because of this endless fighting about what is motorhead and that is this:

in one part of book lemmy himself says that he doesn't get it why poeple bash metal, because it's one of best/purest (don't remember exact word) forms of rock'n'roll.

so i think it preaty much explains his statement on this theme


but still, with or without his words, this is probably most pointless fight ever, we can go in circle forever. there will always be someone that will say that lemmy stands for rock n roll, and then some other dude will say something like i did the start of my post and on and on and on

POINTLESS

And in this his statement he said that about metal but he didnt say Motorhead is metal exactly did he?


i fink rocknrull iz stoopid. hevvy Metuhl rulz! Lemmy is a stoopid old mahn hoo dusnt kno what is metal! boo rocknrull! METUHL 4 LIF!

also, teh wurld iz ours 3 should next be releesed in only dvd/cd box and not sepret. who agree?
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